Episode 65 : 5 powerful ways to Set Your Child up for Lifelong Health

Episode 65 : 5 powerful ways to Set Your Child up for Lifelong Health

Feeding kids well doesn’t have to feel overwhelming. In this episode, I’m sharing the top 5 things I’m doing right now to support my children’s health—not just today, but well into their future.

These five strategies are the backbone of my Five Days to Healthier Kids Challenge, and I’ve crafted this episode to give you a strong starting point. Whether you’re navigating the chaos of fussy eating, unsure about food additives, or simply wanting to raise children who enjoy nutritious foods without pressure, this episode is packed with real talk and evidence-based advice.

I’ll walk you through how to simplify your approach and avoid falling into the trap of doing it all at once. Just pick one area to start—and know you’re already making a big difference.

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Highlights:

Introduction (00:00.96)
5 Powerful Ways to Raise Healthy, Happy Kids Without the Overwhelm (01:51.0)
Feeling Overwhelmed? Here’s Your Simple Starting Point for Raising Healthier Kids (04:17.43)
Why Your Child’s Gut Health Shapes Their Mind, Mood & Immunity (06:38.061)
Better Gut, Better Mood: How to Support Your Child’s Digestion & Immunity (08:56.226)
From Gut Health to Fussy Eating: A Real-World Guide to Feeding Kids Better (11:14.752)
Words Matter: Creating a Positive Feeding Environment & Avoiding Harmful Additives( 13:33.1)
Hidden Additives & Preservatives: What to Watch For to Protect Your Kids’ Health (15:47.256)
5 Powerful Steps to Healthier Kids: Focus on Reducing Artificial Additives & Sugar (18:10.326)
The Sugar Dilemma: How to Smartly Reduce Sugar Without Creating a ‘Forbidden Fruit (20:25.522)
Raising Mindful Eaters: How to Foster a Healthy Relationship with Food for Life (22:44.152)
Raising Mindful Eaters: Setting Up Kids for a Lifetime of Healthy Food Habits (25:06.082)
Building a Better Feeding Environment: Practical Tips for Busy Parents (27:15.946)

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Show Notes

I’ll walk you through how to simplify your approach and avoid falling into the trap of doing it all at once. Just pick one area to start—and know you’re already making a big difference.

What we cover in this episode:

1. Gut health is everything
Why your child’s gut is the control centre of their health—and how simple foods can nurture it.

2. No-pressure variety wins
How to support fussy eaters by shifting the feeding environment, not the food.

3. Food additives under the microscope
Which preservatives to avoid and why they matter for children’s behaviour and gut health.

4. Smart sugar swaps
How to reduce your child’s sugar intake (without the meltdowns or guilt).

5. Raising mindful eaters
Why our words and actions around food shape our children’s long-term relationship with eating.

Show Notes:

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Introduciton (00:00.106)
You're listening to the Easy Feed Podcast, episode number 65, Five Powerful Ways to Set Your Child Up for Lifelong Health.

Hi there, I'm Karina Savage and with over 20 years experience feeding children, including my own, I've learnt all the secrets that busy mums need to get their children eating better and actually enjoying healthy foods. So a huge welcome to the Easy Feed podcast.

Welcome back. I hope you're well. I thought it was timely to share my top five things that I'm doing now to help my kids thrive later because these really tie in with the theme of my Five Days to Healthier Kids Challenge, which starts in a couple of weeks. I'm super excited to be running this again. Every time I run it, it just gets bigger and better.

And yeah, it's, we're taking registrations now. So jump in. It's going to be so much fun. start on Monday, the 23rd of June. And every day I'll be going live and we'll be covering the most important topics on kids' nutrition and health. We're going to be covering everything from fast eating to reducing sugar, to gut health, to avoiding nasty food additives.

to the important, mindful eating and teaching our children how to have a healthy relationship with food. So all of these topics I'm going to be covering in my challenge and you're going to be having a simple but highly effective challenge task every day to keep the momentum rolling. It's a really supportive environment. We have a lot of fun and I've even got some awesome prizes to give away. So yeah, it starts in a couple of weeks. So the...

5 Powerful Ways to Raise Healthy, Happy Kids Without the Overwhelm (01:51.0)
podcast episode today is really in line with what I'm going to be talking about in my challenge. Talk through those five powerful ways that we can really set our children up for lifelong health. Because I think sometimes it can all seem too overwhelming. It can seem really hard and you hear so much about the importance of gut health and the importance of reducing sugar. And there's the movement, the no sugar lunchbox movement, which I'm like,

whatever, who does that? There's so many things that we hear that I think sometimes bring us down and make us feel like we're doing a crap job as parents because you're like, my kid has lots of sugar in their lunchbox. My kid's gut health isn't as good as it could be. We don't have veggies on the dinner plate every night. All right, you offer them every night, but they're not necessarily eating them. I have so many different stories. One of the moms who introduced herself last night into our challenge private Facebook group.

She said, my child eats no fruit or vegetables. Or I was chatting to somebody earlier, when was it yesterday, who was talking to me about how her child gets tummy pain and she's quite careful about the foods that she gives her child. She's actually currently also going through my supermarket guru program, which if you're interested in, I will give you the link in the show notes. That is a new program that I have recently released, launched, and it's a fantastic program and it's actually.

Super affordable. It's a great intro offer at the moment. So that is something that this mum is going through and then her child's getting tummy pain. so despite trying to avoid all the nasties, sometimes there's still problems that go on. And I feel like sometimes it can be so overwhelming trying to feed kids and then they're fussy and then you see something online about food additives and you're like, my gosh, where do I start with that? And then.

You need see something about trying to have well-rounded children that aren't going to grow up feeling guilty or bad about eating junk food or having an eating disorder. And I just feel like so much can go through your head. Look, I don't know. Maybe none of this goes through your head and if it doesn't then lucky you, that's great. And of course, I'm a kid's dietitian so there's going to be more of that going through my head every day. But I'm basically here to try and pass on good quality evidence-based information to you.

Feeling Overwhelmed? Here’s Your Simple Starting Point for Raising Healthier Kids (04:17.43)
And if any of that stuff's going through your head or you were doom scrolling online and you see all the low sugar, the low additives, the mindful eating, all of the stuff that makes you think, my God, I'm not doing as good a job as I should be in the food department. Then this podcast episode is for you because it's to try to simplify what we should be focusing on. And it's trying to give you a simple starting point. I think we just sometimes need simple starting point to then put one foot in front of the other.

And then you gain momentum where if it feels too hard and you don't know where to start, you just keep going around and around the circles and you never start. So it's important to have a starting point and these five key areas will definitely give you some starting points. And really you can pick where you start or really I think it's about choose your own adventure and what's more important to you and what's more relevant to your family.

Is gut health the focus or is it fussy eating or is it avoiding food additives and preservatives or is it reducing sugar or is it that you really want your children to be mindful eaters where they have a healthy relationship with food and know where treats fit and they're not obsessing about foods and they're not sneaking and hiding food. So really I think it's a choose your own adventure and work out what's the priority for your family.

and where you start and you might go, all of those are important. Of course they all are important, which is why I'm sharing them with you, but you really need to start somewhere. Don't try and do it all at once. Don't try and reduce sugar and reduce food additives and stop the fussy eating and create mindful leaders. Don't try and do it all at once because it's hard. Like it's too much. So just pick one thing to start with and then go from there.

And look, if you really want the Intel and a deeper dive, then join my five days to healthier kids challenge, because we're going to go through some pretty cool stuff and a lot of understanding and deeper diving into those areas. And it's free. So join us. So head to the link in the show notes for that as well. Okay. Let's start with, I have to confess, it is my favorite. Look, I've always loved gut health. And if you've been with me a while, you will know that I'm a massive gut health geek.

Why Your Child’s Gut Health Shapes Their Mind, Mood & Immunity (06:38.061)
Just love talking about everything to do with digestion and absorption of nutrients and gut issues in kids and babies with gut issues. So you name it, I'm your person. I'm happy to talk about poo all day long. So gut health is crucial. And the reason it's so crucial is because our gut and our brain are linked. There's 40 % of the same neurotransmitters in our brain as there is in our gut. It's a gut feeling that I had.

That's not a myth. That's actually legitimate. So there's a reason why people have historically had a gut feeling because there's so many messengers that come from your gut microbes that travel to your brain that then control things in your brain. The messages from your gut to your brain, there's a super highway. It's called the gut brain access. It's the enteric nervous system.

It's the vagus nerve. You can take a deep dive down this barb and it's amazing. The gut brain connection is huge and there's so much evidence now linking anxiety and depression, mood disorders and your gut health. So many diseases linked to gut health, autoimmune conditions. The gut really is the center of our systemic health.

And it's the foundation of where most of our immune system is. Three quarters of our immune system is in our gastrointestinal tract. It's where digestion happens. It's where we either up regulate or down regulate inflammation and inflammation is an uspy thing in the body. And that's a huge cause of a lot of diseases. So really the gut's reaction to foods, to bugs, to other viruses.

impacts how we feel. And then as I said, our gut microbes produce all these messages that then go to the brain and they talk all of the time. And so we need to make sure that our child's gut health is as good as it can be because a healthy gut will mean a healthy mind. If your child has good gut health, they are much more likely to learn better, concentrate more easily, be healthier.

Better Gut, Better Mood: How to Support Your Child’s Digestion & Immunity (08:56.226)
be in a better mood more often, they are going to have better immunity against sickness. They are likely to poop better and have less risk of constipation. They're likely to be a healthier weight. There's so many things that are linked to a good gut health. They're likely to need less medication. They're likely to have less anxiety.

The list could just go on and on, but it's so important that we support their gut health through food. And look, aside from food, there are other factors that will influence gut health and the history of your child's gut health plays a role in it as well. If they've had a healthy upbringing, they've had good gut health all their life, they haven't had a lot of sickness or a lot of antibiotics and their gut health may be much better placed than sadly a child who

through no fault of their own have had to have a lot of antibiotics and that can definitely impact the gut microbiome and therefore where the child's gut is at right now. But wherever your child's gut health is at right now, we can always improve it. Okay. So we can feed those good bugs with fiber rich foods. The sexy name for it is prebiotics, right? So we feed them with fruits, preferably with the skin on.

Vegetables, same deal. Don't peel your carrots. Don't peel your potatoes. Whole grains, nuts, seeds, legumes. So important. We don't give our kids enough legumes. So cannellini beans, butter beans, baked beans, edamame, lentils, chickpeas. Throw them at them in as many ways as you can. It's so good for them. And we've got fermented foods. So you've got any type of yoga. It can be dairy or non-dairy as long as it's got bacteria in it that's fermenting. That's good for the gut.

Then you've got miso, you've got kefi, you've got sauerkraut. Okay. So there's all of these beautiful foods that can nurture our child's gut health. And that's really important. The other thing that's also going to be beneficial to their gut health is whole foods and less of the processed foods because ultra processed foods that have long ingredients lists that use highly refined ingredients are likely to actually harm the gut microbiome. Okay. So that's why I've created this.

From Gut Health to Fussy Eating: A Real-World Guide to Feeding Kids Better (11:14.752)
supermarket guide. It's a really low cost, brilliant guide of over 85 breakfast cereals, snacks, muesli bars, even ice creams that are free from nasties, that are low in sugar, the low in salt that are going to be good for your child to consume. Ice cream's not necessarily going to be good for your child to consume, but it's a best option and it's low in all of the nasties or free from all of the nasties. So this great supermarket guide can be purchased and the link will be in the show notes below.

So my number one is to start with gut health. You don't have to start with gut health, but my number one is gut health. And look, these are not necessarily in order of where I place their importance. I think they're all important. And as I said, you need to decide where to start for your family. Number two is offering variety in a non-pressurized environment. And this really comes down to managing fussy eating.

Because with fussy eaters, if they're in a pressurized environment, if they're in a pressure cooker situation, there is no chance you're going to get them to enjoy a greater variety of food or to enjoy a new food. Really, let's be honest, if you are pressured to do something, do you really think you're going to start to enjoy doing that? No way. And as parents, we use that. It's our survival tap.

Do it, just eat it, just take one bite, it's good for you. If you do that, you can get dessert. If you do that, I'll give you 50 bucks. I have been told that before. Literally a child was given 50 bucks. We do these because it's a survival tactic, because we don't have any other tricks up our sleeve and we just want our kids to be healthy. We want our kids to eat well. So we start to apply the pressure. We do it without even realizing we're doing it in the words that we use and the body language that we use.

Kids are like sponges, they absorb everything, the verbal and more importantly, nonverbal. So if you're anxious, if you're unsure, if you're worried, if you're feeling like you want to pressure them, they will pick up on all of that. And this is one area that I really dive deep into in my three week feeding kids reset, which is my Fussy Eating program. It sits inside nourishing kids and it's really looking at that feeding environment and how we are behaving as parents.

Words Matter: Creating a Positive Feeding Environment & Avoiding Harmful Additives( 13:33.1)
The words we use, they count big time. So look, maybe this is where you need to start. If you feel like your feeding environment is really off and it's a pressure cooker situation, then this is where you need to start. You really need to start by taking that 30,000 foot view. And if you're like, Karina, I have no idea where to start. Then contact me via my website, send me a message on Instagram.

My Nourishing Kids program is application only, so we make sure the right people are in there so that we're supporting them. We're a supportive group and I like to be able to really contribute to people individually in our live calls. But do contact me if this is something that you would be interested in because I'd love to support you if you're a great fit for the program. Okay, moving on to number three and number three really comes down to the food additives.

Now look, I have a whole other episode on food additives and specifically in relation to behaviour in children with ADHD. That is episode number 13. So you can check that out. But why we need to start to pay more attention to food additives and preservatives is because we're learning more and more about the impact on our children to the point where

They're now banning the use of artificial colours. Now in nine states of America, in the UK, there's warning statements on foods that contain particular artificial colours, warning parents about the potential increase in attention and behaviour issues in children that are susceptible. But good old Australia is still just pouring what they want into the foods and our children are...

susceptible to whatever gets poured into our food and parents, we buy these foods still. You look at the ice blocks, it's really hard to find an ice block that doesn't have these artificial colors, which is why I created that supermarket guide, as I was talking about before, giving you the best ice creams and ice blocks that don't have these artificial colors in them. Artificial colors.

Hidden Additives & Preservatives: What to Watch For to Protect Your Kids’ Health (15:47.256)
flavors and preservatives like sodium benzoate, sorbates, MSG, they're found everywhere and they are linked to behavioral issues. They can also impact gut health. There's a lot of research into these additives, emulsifiers and their impact on gut health. May contribute to inflammation as well and leaky gut. So look, many are unnecessary and can be easily avoided.

If you know what to look for. And sadly at the moment, manufacturers are still using them because they're an easy way to keep food fresher for longer or an easy way to mix foods with these emulsifiers so that they stay the right consistency and money to create a product that doesn't have these nasties. And it's really pleasing to see that there are companies now who are creating seasonings and all sorts of products.

without these nasties and it's great for the future generation because it means we're starting to get rid of all of these nasties that have so easily crept in over the last 10, 20 years. So we really need to be reading the ingredients list. We really need to be looking at food labels. And my advice is to check those foods that you regularly buy, probably every three to six months, just check the nutrition table, check the ingredients list.

Just to make sure that nothing's changed. If you think it's okay for your children, pop it in the trolley or pop it in the online order, but every three to six months really just have a look just to make sure that nothing's changed because products do change over time. And look, if you really want to deep dive into everything to do with label reading, I have a fantastic supermarket guru program recently launched. And it is literally a one-stop shop to make you a supermarket guru and it

gives you everything you need to know. I've even got little videos where I sit there with all of the food packets in front of me and I'm like, here's a great one, here's a great one, here's a great one. It just gives you those food products to buy that you know are going to be better for your kids so that even if you're time poor, you can still choose better snacks for your children. So being more mindful of food additives and preservatives is number three. And for some people, that's the one thing that they will focus on.

5 Powerful Steps to Healthier Kids: Focus on Reducing Artificial Additives & Sugar (18:10.326)
In the Five Days to Healthier Kids Challenge, you will have a challenge and I'm not going to give it away now, but there is a challenge in that. It's on day three, it's on the Wednesday. And that's a great challenge because when we post the results of everyone's task in the group, everybody gets to see what everyone else has done. And it's a really great learning opportunity there. So I'm not going to give it away, but that could be the place that you start. It could be that you start by simply focusing on reducing artificial food colors.

and flavors and preservatives and really starting to pay a little more attention to that ingredients list because that's really where you need to be looking. All right. Number four relates to reducing sugar. And I must say for me, for my kids, it's probably, think they're all important and I like to focus on all of them. But as I said, if I was to really try to focus on one for me and my family, I'd probably be looking to reduce the sugar further.

Because there's so much evidence around children's really high sugar intake these days. And I know how sugar impacts behavior and mood. On Channel 7 Sunrise, we were talking about whether breakfast was the most important meal of the day. And there was some interesting studies looking at children and students and the impact of breakfast.

on their motivation levels and actual performance in a science test was, well biology is science, right? So was actually really impressive to see all of the evidence. We know that breakfast is important for the majority, but it was really interesting to see it written in black and white in proven research studies. The link between good quality carbohydrates and performance at school.

And the poorer breakfast options were actually closely linked in terms of the children that had really bad breakfast options. They did as poorly as those who had no breakfast at all. So the highest sugar, poorer breakfast options, the junkie options were linked to lower motivation levels in the morning at school and a poorer result on the test. Feel like it creeps in.

The Sugar Dilemma: How to Smartly Reduce Sugar Without Creating a ‘Forbidden Fruit (20:25.522)
everywhere and they want to treat in their lunchbox and they want to treat after school and then they want something after dessert and it just all adds up. And if you look at the research in the pediatric world and you look at the impact of sugar on our children and their health, it's so damning. And I really think it is a focus for a lot of parents. And I think there's this fine line, right? It's a fine line between completely shaming sugar, which

We shouldn't do because it's not going to help anyone because kids are still going to want it and it's just going to create arguments and probably more of a forbidden fruit mentality. But we also at the same time need to reduce it for our children because a high sugar intake is linked to obesity. It's linked to insulin resistance. It's linked to dental decay. It's linked to poorer microbiome and gut imbalance. And it also trains our children to like those sugary foods. So their taste.

buds are preferentially wanting these higher sugar foods and they carry these taste preferences with them into adulthood. So for a number of reasons, we don't want to ban sugar for good, but we really need to be mindful of trying where possible to reduce the sugar in a smart way so that our children don't even realize we're reducing it, but we are.

And I think drinks are a really good place to start because drinks are a source of sugar that kids can just guzzle so much sugar down in a three, 400 mils of apple juice, huge amount of sugar there, or a soft drink, or some of these flavored waters and whatnot. Some of those do have a lot of sugar, the iced teas and whatnot. Sauces are another one, tomato sauces, barbecue sauce is often like 30, 40 % sugar. So they can often get a lot of.

extra sugar from places that we don't even associate as being high sugar. It's not like they're eating a lolly or a kilobython or anything like that, but it all adds up. absolutely does. And so rather than banning it, because then you're much more likely to have a child that will sneak behind your back because they feel like they can never ever have it. And that's where you create that kind of forbidden fruit mentality, right? They want it more because it's forbidden.

Raising Mindful Eaters: How to Foster a Healthy Relationship with Food for Life (22:44.152)
But there's plenty of things we can do. We can change the yogurt, we can swap cereals, we can limit the juice, we can swap the sweets for more baked goods, or you can choose better muesli bar options using my supermarket guide. There's so many things we can do and little changes done consistently across the day will make a big difference. Absolutely. So sugar might be where you start. As I said, just pick one place.

And the final one, number five is creating mindful eaters for life. Look, you only have to look at 60 year old women, maybe even 40 or 50 year old women. And how many of them have either done some form of Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers, Light and Easy. Now there's new like low carb diet plans. Like so many diet plans have been done by women because they have

Felt guilty about their weight, felt guilty about the way they've eaten, haven't trusted their bodies, aren't confident to listen to their appetite, are heavier than they'd like to be. There's a whole lot of body image issues, body positivity problems. There's just so much out there. And if we can try to create mindful eaters as children who love their bodies no matter what.

understand how to have a healthy relationship food that includes treats. So there's no food guilt. There's no shaming. If they have chocolate, there's no connotations around, I'm so bad. I had a chocolate bar today that starts this spiral down into disordered eating. If we can just get our children to love food, have a healthy relationship with food when they're young.

They're not going to have any of these food problems when they get older, or there's going to be a much lower chance of them having food problems when they're older. And look, in our challenge, I talk a lot more and even more inside nourishing kids, but I will dive deeper into how we as parents play a powerful role, especially with mothers with their daughters, fathers with their sons, fathers with their daughters as well, in providing that really positive role modeling around our bodies and the way that we.

Raising Mindful Eaters: Setting Up Kids for a Lifetime of Healthy Food Habits (25:06.082)
talk about food, it's also crucial. So if creating mindful eating is number one in your family, then great. Like I've certainly had many patients, many moms say to me over the years, especially moms, look, my three-year-old is just obsessed with eating. Like go to the playground, they don't even want to play. They just want to sit down and open their lunchbox and then they smash that. And then they go to.

see what everyone else is eating and then take some of that. Some kids are really obsessed with food and they really want to set their children up for a healthy future, make sure they're not too heavy and also just create mindful eaters for life so that they love food, but they know how to self-regulate their appetite and eat to what they need. And there's a lot we can do around that in terms of how we talk about food, how we set up a healthy feeding plan for that child.

How the family talks about food, how the family eats. There's a lot we can do there. So if that's a priority for you, then that's where I would start and start to just observe what happens. Observe what happens with the way you're talking about food. Observe the way that your child is talking about food and behaving around food.

And look, I'm always up for a DM or an email if you want to talk about this more. As I said, we have a whole section of this Inside Nourishing Kids, which is really helpful for moms and parents who want to create those mindful eaters for life. I've got a masterclass on this as well, because it's an issue for people. And that's why I've created a masterclass for it. And I've got information on all of this Inside Nourishing Kids. So as I said before, it's application only. Reach out to me and we can chat about whether you're a good fit for nourishing kids.

All right, let's do a quick recap of my five most powerful ways that I think we can set our children up to have healthy futures. Number one, we need to make sure that we are feeding their gut with variety, with fiber, with those really important prebiotics that is going to support healthy bacterial communities in their gut, which as I said, is the center of their systemic health. It's really the center of the universe.

Building a Better Feeding Environment: Practical Tips for Busy Parents (27:15.946)
Number two, we need to make sure that we are setting up a really effective feeding environment, offering variety without the pressure. Number three, we need to make sure that we are avoiding those nasty food additives as much as possible by reading the ingredients list and knowing what to avoid and knowing what to swap to. Number four, we need to cut down on sugar with easy swaps that will reduce sugar and increase fiber and nutrients.

plenty we can do there. And number five, fostering real mindfulness around food and creating children that love food, that are healthy eaters, that have that really positive relationship with food. So I'll pop all the links to the various support resources in the show notes. My healthy supermarket guide with over kids supermarket swaps, so you know exactly what to choose.

In terms of breakfast cereals and music bars and snacks and popcorn and ice creams. You'll get the link to join Supermarket Guru, which is a fantastic low cost program where you will literally become a supermarket guru and know exactly what foods to put in your trolley forever. And you get to keep that program. The three, the link to check out nourishing kids with a button to apply if you're interested in joining.

And number four, last but not least, make sure you hit this button to join my free five days to healthier kids challenge. As I said, what I've covered today is the backbone of the challenge and we've got so much more to talk about. It's going to be fantastic. And I can't wait for that to start in just over two weeks.

All right, I'll wrap it up there. If you haven't yet left me a review, please hit the star rating button. As soon as you finish this podcast, I would love to hear from you. It really helps us get out to more parents so that they can discover more evidence-based content that's just going to help them feed their families more easily. I look forward to chatting with you again soon. Bye for now.